What kind of gearbox does Lada Vesta have?


In the circles of car owners and enthusiasts you can often hear about the Lada Vesta automatic - is it a myth or reality? What is the actual basis for such conversations? There are rumors surrounding two types of transmissions: automatic transmission and CVT. Perhaps in the future, they will appear on Vesta, fortunately, there are prerequisites for this. Each transmission is special and has its own characteristics! After reading this article you will understand which of the Vesta boxes is suitable for you.
  1. What kind of gearbox does the Lada Vesta have?
  2. What kind of robot is on the Lada Vesta
  3. Disadvantages of the robot
  4. Advantages of the robot
  5. Price of a robotic box for Lada Vesta
  6. How to ride a robot
  7. Manual Transmission
  8. Pros of mechanics
  9. Disadvantages of manual transmission
  10. Price of cars with mechanics
  11. Rumors about a CVT on Vesta
  12. Automatic expected

What kind of gearbox does the Lada Vesta have?

Lada Vesta is available with two types of transmissions: manual and robotic. Both are made in Russia. Until recently, AvtoVAZ installed 5 manual transmissions (manual transmission) from Renault. This is due to the inconsistency of the old VAZ-21080 with the established Vesta standards. I had to modify the Priora box. To increase the gear ratios of the gearbox, the main pair, the second gear gears, was replaced. The new VAZ has a new body, stronger rubber parts, which means the noise level is an order of magnitude lower. Replacing oil seals will be less frequent, adding less oil to the box will increase, torque, acceleration, and maximum speed will increase. With an improvement in gearbox performance, fuel consumption increases by 0.6 liters. Now in mixed mode - 7.5 liters per 100 km. With a new one, 6.9 was enough for the same distance.

Externally, it will not be possible to distinguish a foreign box from a VAZ one. They look the same inside and below. You can find out the manufacturer by the vehicle's VIN code. The combination “GFL11” means that the machine has a Russian node, and “GFL13” means a French one.

The combination “GFL12” indicates AMT on Vesta. 5 AMT - five-speed automated transmission, in common parlance - a robot. Many people mistakenly call manual transmission an automatic transmission. This is wrong. Perhaps they are similar in appearance due to the lack of a clutch pedal. The robot can rather be called a semi-automatic, or a modernized manual transmission. It engages and disengages the clutch, upshifts and downshifts independently, but is designed almost the same as a manual gearbox. Note that the domestic development of its own robot is successful, perhaps they will soon be installed on Renault.

The Lada Vesta sedan and SV Cross have AMT, and it should soon appear in the CIS. Installed together with VAZ 21129 (1.6 l; 106 hp), HR16DE-H4M (1.6 l; 114 hp) and VAZ 21179 (1.8 l; 122 hp) engines.

Lada Vesta configuration

For LADA VESTA there are 3 configurations offered: CLASSIC, COMFORT and LUX. CLASSIC is the most diverse version in terms of the possibility of combining additional equipment based on desire and budget. There are about 11 design options in total, and there will be more later. There are also 12 body colors, but for the LUX package you can choose color combinations, the use of which will make the appearance of the car more expensive.

The standard version, called CLASSIC, includes: 3 L-shaped rear headrests (competitors have no such thing in this segment), convertible interior, cabin air filter, ABS and ESP systems, tilt-adjustable steering column, airbag, 15-inch wheels. For the LUX package - 16 inches. All cars will have very comfortable seats.

Buyers will also be offered a system for distributing braking forces along the axes of the car, stability control, preventing rolling on a hill when starting to move, an ERA-GLONASS rescue system and navigation, a multifunctional steering wheel (multifunction steering wheel), four airbags, a pre-heater, a rear view camera - in expensive trim levels , in cheaper ones - parking sensors, an adjustable steering column in two planes, a height-adjustable driver's seat, a multimedia system, heated seats, mirrors and windshield, light and rain sensors, etc.

An energy-intensive and durable suspension has been developed for the Lada Vesta, which, according to AVTOVAZ specialists, simultaneously provides the best performance in terms of smoothness, stability and controllability, and it also has high ground clearance. The car will receive engine protection, the sills and bottom will be treated with anti-gravel protection, and the gas tank capacity will be 55 liters, for comparison, the Priora has 43 liters.

Unlike the concept, which has a wheel diameter of 18 inches, the production version will have 15-16 inches.

AVTOVAZ is following the path of the Korean ones.

Engines and gearboxes

Main page: Lada Vesta engine

Power unitSedanHatchback
1.6 l., 8 cl. , 87 hp, manual transmission (JHQ)
1.6l., 16kl. , 106 hp, manual transmission (JHQ)
1.6l., 16kl. , 106 hp, AMT (2182) with kick-down mode
1.6l., 16kl. Engine Renault-Nissan, 114 hp, manual transmission (JHQ)
1.8 l. , 122 hp, AMT (2182) with kick-down mode

Colors

Main page: Lada Vesta colors

The car will be offered in 12 colors, and for the LUX version, several colors will be combined in color. As a result, the appearance of the car becomes more expensive. It is not yet known what colors will be combined.

Detailed table

ModelGFL13GFL12GFL13 GFL12 GFL12
Equipment00000000069X00069XX00Y00Y4PY69
Execution option 50 Classic 51 Comfort 51 Comfort 52 Luxe
Plastic bagOptimaOptimaLimeMMStyle
Body type/number of doors sedan/4
Length/width/height, mm 4410/1764/1497
Ground clearance, mm 178
Luggage compartment volume, l 480
Fuel tank volume, l 55
Transmission AMT AMT AMT AMT
Engine 11189, 1.6 l 8 cl., 5MT, JH3 gearbox, 64 kW/87 l. With.
Engine 21129, 1.6 l 16 cl., 5MT, JH3 gearbox, 78 kW/106 l. With.
Engine 21129, 1.6 l 16 cl., 5AMT, gearbox 2182, 78 kW/106 l. With.
Engine H4M, 1.6 l 16 cl., 5MT, JH3 gearbox, 84 kW/114 l. c.
Toxicity standardEuro 5Euro 5Euro 5Euro 5
Maximum speed, km/h178178178178178
Acceleration time 0-100 km/h, s11,811,811,811,811,8
Fuel consumption in the combined cycle, l/100 kmn/an/an/an/an/a
SAFETY
Driver airbag
Front passenger airbag with deactivation function
Side airbags
Retractable seat belts (2 front/3 rear)
Driver's seat belt with pretensioner and limiter
Passenger seat belt with pretensioner and limiter
Driver seat belt indication
Passenger seat belt indication
Rear seat headrests L-shaped (3 pcs.)
ISOFIX child seat anchors
Locking the rear doors against opening by children
Automatic door locking when driving
Automatic door unlocking and hazard warning lights in the event of a collision
Immobilizer
Security alarm
Electric headlight corrector
Daytime Running Lights
Fog lights
Anti-lock braking system with emergency brake assist (ABS+BAS)
Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD)
Hill Start Assist (HSA)
Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
INTERIOR
On-board computer
Gear shift prompt in the instrument cluster
Delay function for interior lighting after closing the door
One-piece rear seat cushion
Split rear seatback (40/60)
Split rear seatback (40/60)
Driver's seat armrest with tilt adjustment
Fabric seat upholstery
Door trim (insert) plastic
Door upholstery (insert) fabric
Door trim (insert) distorted
12V socket
Pockets in the backs of the front seats
Driver and passenger sun visor with mirror
Case for glasses
Pads on the pedals
Textile rugs
Brackets for securing cargo in the trunk
Glove compartment lighting
Luggage compartment lighting
Illumination of entry and exit points in the front doors
Driver's tools: jack, combination wheel wrench, wheel cover removal wrench, towing eye
Driver's tools: jack, combination wheel wrench, towing eye
COMFORT
Electric power steering
Steering gear with gear speed 3.1
Height and reach adjustable steering column
Adjusting the height of the front seat belts
Driver's seat with height adjustment and lumbar support
Cabin air filter
Light window tinting
Folding key
Central locking with remote control
Power windows for front doors
Power windows for rear doors
Electric trunk lid lock with control from the passenger compartment
Heated front seats
Electric drive and heated exterior mirrors
Heated windshield
Parking sensors
Rear View Camera
Rain and light sensors
Air conditioner
Climate control
Cooled glove box
Cruise control and speed limiter
Control of the multimedia system and cruise control on the steering wheel
ERA Glonass
Audio preparation (external antenna, wiring harnesses for radio and 4 speakers)
Audio system (4.3″ monochrome display, FM/AM with RDS function, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, Hands free), external antenna, 4 speakers
Multimedia system (7″ color display with TouchScreen, FM/AM with RDS function, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, Hands free), external antenna, 4 speakers
Two additional tweeters
Navigation system
EXTERIOR
Exterior mirrors with side direction indicators
Exterior mirrors in body color
Exterior door handles in body color
Radiator grille, matte black
Radiator grille, black lacquered
Door frames black matte
Door frames black glossy
Decorative stickers for the body
Spoiler
Decorative exhaust pipe nozzle
Floor sill trim
Floor threshold seals
Front fender shields (lockers)
Rear fender shields (lockers)
Front wheel aprons (mud flaps)
Rear wheel aprons (mud flaps)
Wheels stamped welded 15″
Cast wheels 15″
Cast wheels 16″
Cast wheels 16″ original
Decorative wheel caps
Full-size stamped-welded spare wheel 15″
Spare wheel cast full size 16″
Original body paint in Lime color
Package 1: Optima
Heated windshield
Cast wheels 15″
Package 2: Multimedia
Rear View Camera
Cruise control and speed limiter
Control of the multimedia system and cruise control on the steering wheel
Multimedia system (7″ color display with TouchScreen, FM/AM with RDS function, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, Hands free), external antenna, 4 speakers
Two additional tweeters
Navigation system
Package 3: Style
Pads on the pedals
Textile rugs
Decorative stickers for the body
Spoiler
Decorative exhaust pipe nozzle
Cast wheels 16″ original

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What kind of robot is on the Lada Vesta

The Vesta robot was created on the basis of a VAZ 21827 manual transmission, to which a control unit, actuators and drives from the German company ZF were added. AMT transmission sensors are connected to the Lada's on-board computer. The most useful feature in Vesta is the indicator with gear shift prompts. The hint of Lada Vesta is two triangles pointing up and down. When one of them lights up, it means you should engage an upshift or downshift. This option is accompanied by sound, which can be disabled.

AMT automatically releases the clutch electronically. To start moving, you need to remove the lever from the neutral position and press the accelerator pedal. To bring the Vesta robot as close as possible to the machine, there is. The chipped Lada begins to move when the brake pedal is released.

Disadvantages of the robot

The robotic transmission has been discontinued overseas due to a number of problems. They are also present on the Lada Vesta AMT.

Gear shifts abruptly, jerks in movement are possible; The semi-automatic machine “thinks” for a long time; during dynamic driving, it does not put the required pair of gears into operation at the right time; On an ascent, it downshifts belatedly.

The disadvantages are less noticeable if you drive smoothly and do not brake or accelerate sharply.

Advantages of the robot

Why did AvtoVAZ decide to produce Vesta with this type of box? The fact is that:

The robotic gearbox of the Lada Vesta is cheaper to construct than a classic automatic; Vesta with a robot uses fuel more economically, unlike other gearboxes; A special feature of AMT in comparison with automatic transmission is almost three times less transmission oil consumption; The electronic mechanism provides protection against engaging the wrong gear while driving (this happens on mechanics); The robot rarely breaks down and does not need to be frequently diagnosed and maintained; The clutch engages and disengages smoothly when starting off and changing gears, the lever does not vibrate while driving; Manual transmission is less noisy than manual transmission; Inside the box there is an option to compensate for clutch wear - it further extends the service life of transmission elements; The box is used in automatic or manual mode, whichever is more convenient.

Manual Transmission

Lada Vesta is a car created from scratch, with its own base. For Vesta, the basis of the Lada S and Lada B was specially designed with a new steering, brake system and radiator from Renault Megane. The manual gearbox was initially borrowed from the Renault-Nissan concern. AvtoVAZ’s policy is aimed at developing its own components and equipping new Ladas with them to the maximum. It was not possible to supply the outdated VAZ-2180. They decided to modernize it, in fact it turned out to design a completely new, modern, silent box. A year after the start of sales, it appeared.

Pros of mechanics

New mechanics 21807 with low noise level. Speeds are switched comfortably and smoothly, the lever comes exactly to the required speed. Of course, acceleration with a manual transmission is better; the transmission does not wait for a command from the crankshaft speed sensor. Manual transmission requires the least amount of oil. In winter, the engine starts easier. The mechanics are cheap to maintain and repair and do not require any special care. When driving off-road and in snow, a manual transmission has no equal. Unlike the robot, the owners note that the mechanics do not “stupid” or “twitch”—the robot does not boast about this.

Disadvantages of manual transmission

Difficult when starting from a stop and when moving uphill - you need experience. You have to get used to a car with a manual transmission, feel for the desired speed range, press the clutch pedal, feel the moment of need to change gear. While the driver is inexperienced or getting acquainted with a new car, the clutch and the engine with gearbox wear out a lot. The domestic transmission consumes more gasoline than its French sister and AMT. Of course, mechanics are not as convenient as an automatic machine or a robot. When driving for a long time, the driver gets more tired, and it is not convenient in a traffic jam.

Technical equipment

Lada Vesta is suitable both for trips around the city and for traveling on country roads. The car was based on a B/C platform, the same as that of Renault and Nissan.

The platform uses a mounted original suspension, which has steering knuckles and a caster of 5 degrees. Vehicle ground clearance is 171 mm when fully loaded.

As a nice feature of the Lada Vesta, it can be noted that the steering column is adjustable not only in height, but also in reach. The body rigidity of the new model is 15,000 Nm/deg. Depending on the configuration, the car can be equipped with 8-valve engine models with a capacity of 87 hp. s, as well as engines with 16 valves, rated at 106 and 114 hp. All of them are designed to work with both a conventional five-speed manual transmission (automatic transmission) and an AMT robotic transmission.

Currently, the new Lada is sold only as a sedan, but a hatchback is expected to be released in 2016. After this, production of the Lada Vesta Cross station wagon is expected.

More details about Lada “Vesta” cars

Rumors about a CVT on Vesta

It is already known that the Renault Nissan concern, together with AvtoVAZ, is working on installing a continuously variable transmission on Vesta. To install an imported gearbox, you will need to install a new engine, most likely also foreign-made. The release date of the Lada with a CVT is not known, let’s assume that it’s not worth waiting for such a car within the next three to four years.

With a CVT, Vesta will become more economical than it is now. The ride will become smooth without changing gears. One “but” is that repairing a variator is astronomically expensive; Lada manufacturers should think carefully about this.

Automatic expected

Many people are concerned about the issue of the machine gun. The predecessors Kalina and Grant already had a four-speed Jatco automatic, why isn’t it on the 2180? The fact is that there is no suitable base for the machine gun on the Lada Vesta. The mentioned box is already outdated, and purchasing a new one will significantly increase the price of the car, which is contrary to the policy of the Volga Automobile Plant.

Company President Nicolas More denied rumors about a 4-band automatic transmission for the most popular Lada models. So will the Lada Vesta have a gun? Most likely Yes. It will be a 6-speed modern transmission. Negotiations are already underway on the creation of a new plant in the Russian Federation; automatic transmissions will be created at the plant with the support of foreign companies. The appearance of an automatic machine on the Lada Vesta should be expected in at least 4-6 years.

External characteristics of the new Lada

The new Lada Vesta pleased us with its body, which retains the characteristic VAZ features, but adds a pronounced individuality. In general, the concept of the body remains the same - the developers repeated the shape of the headlights, the tightened stern and the “x” stampings. Immediately after the first photos of the Lada Vesta appeared, all car enthusiasts noted the fact that the new Lada would be the most beautiful in the entire range of cars.

The car is presented in a wide range of colors: models in red, light and dark blue, classic black, gray, as well as wet asphalt and even the unusual “Lime” color.

The car is equipped with special lighting equipment, and fog lights are located on the bumper compartments. The new sedan can be immediately recognized thanks to such distinctive signs as the letter “X” on the radiator grille, as well as massive stamps on the plastic hood and sides.

Depending on the configuration, wheels of different diameters are used. The most common equipment of the Lada Vesta is the “Comfort” equipment. It is equipped with wheels with a diameter of 15 inches. The price of the car also depends on the configuration, so everyone can find a suitable option for themselves.

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