Lada Vesta: with “robot” or mechanics?

In the circles of car owners and enthusiasts you can often hear about the Lada Vesta automatic - is it a myth or reality? What is the actual basis for such conversations? There are rumors surrounding two types of transmissions: automatic transmission and CVT. Perhaps in the future, they will appear on Vesta, fortunately, there are prerequisites for this. Each transmission is special and has its own characteristics! After reading this article you will understand which of the Vesta boxes is suitable for you.

What kind of gearbox does the Lada Vesta have?
What kind of robot is on the Lada Vesta
Disadvantages of the robot
Advantages of the robot
Price of a robotic box for Lada Vesta
How to ride a robot
Manual Transmission
Pros of mechanics
Disadvantages of manual transmission
Price of cars with mechanics
Rumors about a CVT on Vesta
Automatic expected

What kind of gearbox does the Lada Vesta have?

Lada Vesta is available with two types of transmissions: manual and robotic. Both are made in Russia. Until recently, AvtoVAZ installed 5 manual transmissions (manual transmission) from Renault. This is due to the inconsistency of the old VAZ-21080 with the established Vesta standards. I had to modify the Priora box. To increase the gear ratios of the gearbox, the main pair, the second gear gears, was replaced. The new VAZ has a new body, stronger rubber parts, which means the noise level is an order of magnitude lower. Replacing oil seals will be less frequent, adding less oil to the box will increase, torque, acceleration, and maximum speed will increase. With an improvement in gearbox performance, fuel consumption increases by 0.6 liters. Now in mixed mode - 7.5 liters per 100 km. With a new one, 6.9 was enough for the same distance.

Externally, it will not be possible to distinguish a foreign box from a VAZ one. They look the same inside and below. You can find out the manufacturer by the vehicle's VIN code. The combination “GFL11” means that the machine has a Russian node, and “GFL13” means a French one.

The combination “GFL12” indicates AMT on Vesta. 5 AMT - five-speed automated transmission, in common parlance - a robot. Many people mistakenly call manual transmission an automatic transmission. This is wrong. Perhaps they are similar in appearance due to the lack of a clutch pedal. The robot can rather be called a semi-automatic, or a modernized manual transmission. It engages and disengages the clutch, upshifts and downshifts independently, but is designed almost the same as a manual gearbox. Note that the domestic development of its own robot is successful, perhaps they will soon be installed on Renault.

The Lada Vesta sedan and SV Cross have AMT, and it should soon appear in the CIS. Installed together with VAZ 21129 (1.6 l; 106 hp), HR16DE-H4M (1.6 l; 114 hp) and VAZ 21179 (1.8 l; 122 hp) engines.

Lada Vesta configuration

For LADA VESTA there are 3 configurations offered: CLASSIC, COMFORT and LUX. CLASSIC is the most diverse version in terms of the possibility of combining additional equipment based on desire and budget. There are about 11 design options in total, and there will be more later. There are also 12 body colors, but for the LUX package you can choose color combinations, the use of which will make the appearance of the car more expensive.

The standard version, called CLASSIC, includes: 3 L-shaped rear headrests (competitors have no such thing in this segment), convertible interior, cabin air filter, ABS and ESP systems, tilt-adjustable steering column, airbag, 15-inch wheels. For the LUX package - 16 inches. All cars will have very comfortable seats.

Buyers will also be offered a system for distributing braking forces along the axes of the car, stability control, preventing rolling on a hill when starting to move, an ERA-GLONASS rescue system and navigation, a multifunctional steering wheel (multifunction steering wheel), four airbags, a pre-heater, a rear view camera - in expensive trim levels , in cheaper ones - parking sensors, an adjustable steering column in two planes, a height-adjustable driver's seat, a multimedia system, heated seats, mirrors and windshield, light and rain sensors, etc.

An energy-intensive and durable suspension has been developed for the Lada Vesta, which, according to AVTOVAZ specialists, simultaneously provides the best performance in terms of smoothness, stability and controllability, and it also has high ground clearance. The car will receive engine protection, the sills and bottom will be treated with anti-gravel protection, and the gas tank capacity will be 55 liters, for comparison, the Priora has 43 liters.

Unlike the concept, which has a wheel diameter of 18 inches, the production version will have 15-16 inches.

AVTOVAZ is following the path of the Korean ones.

Engines and gearboxes

Main page: Lada Vesta engine

Power unit	Sedan	Hatchback
1.6 l., 8 cl. , 87 hp, manual transmission (JHQ)
1.6l., 16kl. , 106 hp, manual transmission (JHQ)
1.6l., 16kl. , 106 hp, AMT (2182) with kick-down mode
1.6l., 16kl. Engine Renault-Nissan, 114 hp, manual transmission (JHQ)
1.8 l. , 122 hp, AMT (2182) with kick-down mode

Colors

Main page: Lada Vesta colors

The car will be offered in 12 colors, and for the LUX version, several colors will be combined in color. As a result, the appearance of the car becomes more expensive. It is not yet known what colors will be combined.

Detailed table

Model	GFL13	GFL12	GFL13		GFL12		GFL12
Equipment	000	000	000	69X	000	69X	X00	Y00	Y4P	Y69
Execution option	50 Classic		51 Comfort		51 Comfort		52 Luxe
Plastic bag	Optima	Optima	Lime	MM	Style
Body type/number of doors	sedan/4
Length/width/height, mm	4410/1764/1497
Ground clearance, mm	178
Luggage compartment volume, l	480
Fuel tank volume, l	55
Transmission	AMT	AMT		AMT		AMT
Engine 11189, 1.6 l 8 cl., 5MT, JH3 gearbox, 64 kW/87 l. With.
Engine 21129, 1.6 l 16 cl., 5MT, JH3 gearbox, 78 kW/106 l. With.	●	●
Engine 21129, 1.6 l 16 cl., 5AMT, gearbox 2182, 78 kW/106 l. With.	●	●		●
Engine H4M, 1.6 l 16 cl., 5MT, JH3 gearbox, 84 kW/114 l. c.
Toxicity standard	Euro 5		Euro 5		Euro 5		Euro 5
Maximum speed, km/h	178	178	178		178		178
Acceleration time 0-100 km/h, s	11,8	11,8	11,8		11,8		11,8
Fuel consumption in the combined cycle, l/100 km	n/a	n/a	n/a		n/a		n/a
SAFETY
Driver airbag	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Front passenger airbag with deactivation function	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Side airbags
Retractable seat belts (2 front/3 rear)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Driver's seat belt with pretensioner and limiter	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Passenger seat belt with pretensioner and limiter	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Driver seat belt indication	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Passenger seat belt indication	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Rear seat headrests L-shaped (3 pcs.)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
ISOFIX child seat anchors	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Locking the rear doors against opening by children	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Automatic door locking when driving	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Automatic door unlocking and hazard warning lights in the event of a collision	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Immobilizer	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Security alarm	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Electric headlight corrector	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Daytime Running Lights	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Fog lights	●	●	●	●
Anti-lock braking system with emergency brake assist (ABS+BAS)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Hill Start Assist (HSA)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Electronic Stability Control (ESC)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Electronic Stability Control (ESC)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
INTERIOR
On-board computer	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Gear shift prompt in the instrument cluster	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Delay function for interior lighting after closing the door	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
One-piece rear seat cushion	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Split rear seatback (40/60)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Split rear seatback (40/60)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Driver's seat armrest with tilt adjustment	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Fabric seat upholstery	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Door trim (insert) plastic	●	●
Door upholstery (insert) fabric	●	●	●	●
Door trim (insert) distorted	●	●	●	●
12V socket	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Pockets in the backs of the front seats	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Driver and passenger sun visor with mirror	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Case for glasses	●	●	●	●
Pads on the pedals	●
Textile rugs	●
Brackets for securing cargo in the trunk	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Glove compartment lighting	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Luggage compartment lighting	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Illumination of entry and exit points in the front doors	●	●	●	●
Driver's tools: jack, combination wheel wrench, wheel cover removal wrench, towing eye	●	●	●	●
Driver's tools: jack, combination wheel wrench, towing eye	●	●	●	●	●	●
COMFORT
Electric power steering	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Steering gear with gear speed 3.1	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Height and reach adjustable steering column	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Adjusting the height of the front seat belts	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Driver's seat with height adjustment and lumbar support	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Cabin air filter	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Light window tinting	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Folding key	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Central locking with remote control	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Power windows for front doors	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Power windows for rear doors	●	●	●	●
Electric trunk lid lock with control from the passenger compartment	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Heated front seats	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Electric drive and heated exterior mirrors	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Heated windshield	●	●	●	●	●	●
Parking sensors	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Rear View Camera	●	●
Rain and light sensors	●	●	●	●
Air conditioner	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Climate control
Cooled glove box	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Cruise control and speed limiter	●	●
Control of the multimedia system and cruise control on the steering wheel	●	●
ERA Glonass	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Audio preparation (external antenna, wiring harnesses for radio and 4 speakers)	●	●
Audio system (4.3″ monochrome display, FM/AM with RDS function, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, Hands free), external antenna, 4 speakers	●	●	●	●	●	●
Multimedia system (7″ color display with TouchScreen, FM/AM with RDS function, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, Hands free), external antenna, 4 speakers	●	●
Two additional tweeters	●	●
Navigation system	●	●
EXTERIOR
Exterior mirrors with side direction indicators	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Exterior mirrors in body color	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Exterior door handles in body color	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Radiator grille, matte black	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Radiator grille, black lacquered	●	●	●	●
Door frames black matte	●	●	●	●	●	●
Door frames black glossy	●	●	●	●
Decorative stickers for the body	●
Spoiler	●
Decorative exhaust pipe nozzle	●
Floor sill trim	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Floor threshold seals	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Front fender shields (lockers)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Rear fender shields (lockers)
Front wheel aprons (mud flaps)	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●	●
Rear wheel aprons (mud flaps)
Wheels stamped welded 15″	●	●	●	●
Cast wheels 15″	●	●
Cast wheels 16″	●	●	●
Cast wheels 16″ original	●
Decorative wheel caps	●	●	●	●
Full-size stamped-welded spare wheel 15″	●	●	●	●	●	●
Spare wheel cast full size 16″	●	●	●	●	●	●
Original body paint in Lime color	●
Package 1: Optima
Heated windshield	●	●
Cast wheels 15″	●	●
Package 2: Multimedia
Rear View Camera	●
Cruise control and speed limiter	●
Control of the multimedia system and cruise control on the steering wheel	●
Multimedia system (7″ color display with TouchScreen, FM/AM with RDS function, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, Hands free), external antenna, 4 speakers	●
Two additional tweeters	●
Navigation system	●
Package 3: Style
Pads on the pedals	●
Textile rugs	●
Decorative stickers for the body	●
Spoiler	●
Decorative exhaust pipe nozzle	●
Cast wheels 16″ original	●

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What kind of robot is on the Lada Vesta

The Vesta robot was created on the basis of a VAZ 21827 manual transmission, to which a control unit, actuators and drives from the German company ZF were added. AMT transmission sensors are connected to the Lada's on-board computer. The most useful feature in Vesta is the indicator with gear shift prompts. The hint of Lada Vesta is two triangles pointing up and down. When one of them lights up, it means you should engage an upshift or downshift. This option is accompanied by sound, which can be disabled.

AMT automatically releases the clutch electronically. To start moving, you need to remove the lever from the neutral position and press the accelerator pedal. To bring the Vesta robot as close as possible to the machine, there is. The chipped Lada begins to move when the brake pedal is released.

Disadvantages of the robot

The robotic transmission has been discontinued overseas due to a number of problems. They are also present on the Lada Vesta AMT.

Gear shifts abruptly, jerks in movement are possible; The semi-automatic machine “thinks” for a long time; during dynamic driving, it does not put the required pair of gears into operation at the right time; On an ascent, it downshifts belatedly.

The disadvantages are less noticeable if you drive smoothly and do not brake or accelerate sharply.

Advantages of the robot

Why did AvtoVAZ decide to produce Vesta with this type of box? The fact is that:

The robotic gearbox of the Lada Vesta is cheaper to construct than a classic automatic; Vesta with a robot uses fuel more economically, unlike other gearboxes; A special feature of AMT in comparison with automatic transmission is almost three times less transmission oil consumption; The electronic mechanism provides protection against engaging the wrong gear while driving (this happens on mechanics); The robot rarely breaks down and does not need to be frequently diagnosed and maintained; The clutch engages and disengages smoothly when starting off and changing gears, the lever does not vibrate while driving; Manual transmission is less noisy than manual transmission; Inside the box there is an option to compensate for clutch wear - it further extends the service life of transmission elements; The box is used in automatic or manual mode, whichever is more convenient.

Manual Transmission

Lada Vesta is a car created from scratch, with its own base. For Vesta, the basis of the Lada S and Lada B was specially designed with a new steering, brake system and radiator from Renault Megane. The manual gearbox was initially borrowed from the Renault-Nissan concern. AvtoVAZ’s policy is aimed at developing its own components and equipping new Ladas with them to the maximum. It was not possible to supply the outdated VAZ-2180. They decided to modernize it, in fact it turned out to design a completely new, modern, silent box. A year after the start of sales, it appeared.

Pros of mechanics

New mechanics 21807 with low noise level. Speeds are switched comfortably and smoothly, the lever comes exactly to the required speed. Of course, acceleration with a manual transmission is better; the transmission does not wait for a command from the crankshaft speed sensor. Manual transmission requires the least amount of oil. In winter, the engine starts easier. The mechanics are cheap to maintain and repair and do not require any special care. When driving off-road and in snow, a manual transmission has no equal. Unlike the robot, the owners note that the mechanics do not “stupid” or “twitch”—the robot does not boast about this.

Disadvantages of manual transmission

Difficult when starting from a stop and when moving uphill - you need experience. You have to get used to a car with a manual transmission, feel for the desired speed range, press the clutch pedal, feel the moment of need to change gear. While the driver is inexperienced or getting acquainted with a new car, the clutch and the engine with gearbox wear out a lot. The domestic transmission consumes more gasoline than its French sister and AMT. Of course, mechanics are not as convenient as an automatic machine or a robot. When driving for a long time, the driver gets more tired, and it is not convenient in a traffic jam.

Technical equipment

Lada Vesta is suitable both for trips around the city and for traveling on country roads. The car was based on a B/C platform, the same as that of Renault and Nissan.

The platform uses a mounted original suspension, which has steering knuckles and a caster of 5 degrees. Vehicle ground clearance is 171 mm when fully loaded.

As a nice feature of the Lada Vesta, it can be noted that the steering column is adjustable not only in height, but also in reach. The body rigidity of the new model is 15,000 Nm/deg. Depending on the configuration, the car can be equipped with 8-valve engine models with a capacity of 87 hp. s, as well as engines with 16 valves, rated at 106 and 114 hp. All of them are designed to work with both a conventional five-speed manual transmission (automatic transmission) and an AMT robotic transmission.

Currently, the new Lada is sold only as a sedan, but a hatchback is expected to be released in 2016. After this, production of the Lada Vesta Cross station wagon is expected.

More details about Lada “Vesta” cars

Rumors about a CVT on Vesta

It is already known that the Renault Nissan concern, together with AvtoVAZ, is working on installing a continuously variable transmission on Vesta. To install an imported gearbox, you will need to install a new engine, most likely also foreign-made. The release date of the Lada with a CVT is not known, let’s assume that it’s not worth waiting for such a car within the next three to four years.

Automatic expected

Many people are concerned about the issue of the machine gun. The predecessors Kalina and Grant already had a four-speed Jatco automatic, why isn’t it on the 2180? The fact is that there is no suitable base for the machine gun on the Lada Vesta. The mentioned box is already outdated, and purchasing a new one will significantly increase the price of the car, which is contrary to the policy of the Volga Automobile Plant.

Company President Nicolas More denied rumors about a 4-band automatic transmission for the most popular Lada models. So will the Lada Vesta have a gun? Most likely Yes. It will be a 6-speed modern transmission. Negotiations are already underway on the creation of a new plant in the Russian Federation; automatic transmissions will be created at the plant with the support of foreign companies. The appearance of an automatic machine on the Lada Vesta should be expected in at least 4-6 years.

External characteristics of the new Lada

The new Lada Vesta pleased us with its body, which retains the characteristic VAZ features, but adds a pronounced individuality. In general, the concept of the body remains the same - the developers repeated the shape of the headlights, the tightened stern and the “x” stampings. Immediately after the first photos of the Lada Vesta appeared, all car enthusiasts noted the fact that the new Lada would be the most beautiful in the entire range of cars.

The car is presented in a wide range of colors: models in red, light and dark blue, classic black, gray, as well as wet asphalt and even the unusual “Lime” color.

The car is equipped with special lighting equipment, and fog lights are located on the bumper compartments. The new sedan can be immediately recognized thanks to such distinctive signs as the letter “X” on the radiator grille, as well as massive stamps on the plastic hood and sides.

Depending on the configuration, wheels of different diameters are used. The most common equipment of the Lada Vesta is the “Comfort” equipment. It is equipped with wheels with a diameter of 15 inches. The price of the car also depends on the configuration, so everyone can find a suitable option for themselves.